Several postings have expressed curiosity about the Hill-Climbing
Bicycle scene in "THE WIZARD OF SPEED AND TIME" feature film...
Newsgroup: alt.fan.mike-jittlov, article: 811
From: chuck@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Chuck A. Nicholas)
Subject: Up Hill Bicycle Scene in WOSAT
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:22:44 GMT
> :) I kept getting hung up on the biz where the *inside* of the
photomat is vastly larger than the outside
Along similar lines, the one scene in the film that I find most
intriguing was when Mike rides his bike up the hill without
pedalling it. I mean his feet are completely off of the pedals.
I watched it frame by frame and everything else in the scene
seems to be moving normally, i.e. right direction, apparently
the right speed. There is a person walking on the hill and some
cars moving around as well. If this was done with stop motion,
did you stop motion the traffic as well? The only other thing I
can guess is a small electric motor hidden in the back basket to
push the bike?
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Richard Pieri responds:
Or someone/thing off-camera doing the tow-trick.
Or Mike pedaled *real hard* before he came on-camera :-).
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Keith Dickinson notes:
If you look closely to when they first cut to the scene, Mike's
legs are just being being pulled away from the bike. I believe
that furious pumping of the bike and then lifting one's legs
away at the last moment will give you that effect.
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Chuck Nicholas cites:
I looked for a tow line/cable or even shadow of one, can't see
any evidence of one. Maybe rocket packs?
"Or Mike pedaled *real hard* before he came on-camera"
That's a big hill, he must have pedalled *REAL HARD*!
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Leo L. Schwab elaborates:
Look more closely. Look at the surrounding buildings and see
if their angle to the ground is consistent with being on a hill.
I think he just tilted the camera at an odd angle to create the
illusion of a hill, much as they do in truck ads, making it
appear the truck's climbing a steeper hill than it really is.
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Chuck Nicholas adds:
OK, I checked. It's a big hill. The trees, telephone poles,
etc, look OK. Also, you can see the bottom of the hill where
it flattens out. I can't even imagine someone "riding" a bike
backwards that great a distance & reversing the order of the
film. The shadows don't seem to move enough for stop motion.
No wonder they call him The Wizard of Speed and Time!
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Erik. S. Swedlund offers:
Suppose he had a *lot* of friends give him a big push just
before the bike entered the camera field? Or perhaps some
other sort of pushing device...
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Okay, the poll has officially closed.
BIKE-MOTOR THEORY:
The WIZ-bike was supposed to do more, in this movie. But due to
my esteamed business partner's mysterious necessity to get this
production going immediately, I didn't have the 2-3 months of
prep time to find our shooting locations, design sets, build the
props, etc. I had to create and gimmick the bicycle _during_
our filming. The bike's lights and sounds all work, but the fan
is just a fan - there was no time to find a decent bike motor
(do they still make'em?).
INVISIBLE TOW-CABLE THEORY:
I couldn't locate the company for this. Besides, the sun angle
was wrong - you would have seen the glint even on the special
wire - and we surely couldn't afford the digital-erasing used in
TERMINATOR 2 (which process didn't exist yet, anyway). Plus,
something would probably go wrong, and I or the bike would get
dragged kicking and screaming for a block until the emergency
uncoupler finally activated.
LOT OF PEOPLE PUSHING ME THEORY:
Nope, it was just me and Brian Thomas, that day.
PEDALLING REAL FAST THEORY:
I was dog-tired, it was a hot day, that's a very steep hill.
RIDING BACKWARDS THEORY:
I tried that - but the bike isn't designed for backwards riding,
and it was uncontrollable after more than a few feet.
STOP-MOTION FILMING THEORY:
Well within the sanity level of this production, and actually
used on this stretch of road for the ending to "Turtle Joak" -
but stop-motion proved undoable due to all the heavy vehicular
and pedestrian traffic, and the local mongrels occasionally
attacking the bike's tires.
ROCKET-PACK THEORY:
This theory is so far-fetched I won't even bother to answer it.
(And besides, the only jetpack available was Kenny's Bell unit,
and it only lasted for 20 seconds, and there were too many
overhead phonelines to avoid in case Murphy's Law cut in.)
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